*Spoiler alert if you're waiting for the prime time BBC One viewing*
That was a joke, by the way, before anyone gets back in the comments to call me a self-important joker for suggesting people might actually be avoiding what happens for the full 'live' experience...
Anyway, not sure any of the above was necessary... onto your comments and reaction before I live blog myself down another midweek avenue of nonsense...
eburtthebike: "Well, the Panorama thing was nowhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be, but as others have pointed out, it still had significant flaws. For instance pretending that Rod Liddle was in any way an authoritative source, or that their online survey was the least bit valid.
"Neither did they compare the amounts spent on cycling with the amounts spent on other transport infrastructure to put it into context, or mention the police data which shows that it is overwhelmingly the driver at fault in cyclist/motor vehicle collisions.
"So while it could have been much, much worse, it could have been so much better. Still, at least it's an improvement from the BBC's normal line for the past forty years of 'two wheels bad, four wheels good' approach. Maybe they'll even actually commission a series about cycling and why it is so good for you, your neighbourhood and the planet.*
"*Just a little joke I thought I'd throw in for my own amusement."
HoarseMann: "Good to see some road.cc NMotD clips highlighting the issue. This is a bit better than some of the other programmes on this topic, but still too much framing the problem as a balanced difference of opinions.
"Letting Rod Liddle mouth off unchallenged is a low point, along with some Highway Code change inaccuracies (cyclists can now ride in the middle of the road) and the London van driver (that cyclist should be in the bus lane so that they're out of the way).
"Illegal driving and the failure of the police to enforce the law is the root cause. Difficulty getting justice was lightly covered, but the lack of enforcement for careless driving around cyclists didn't get a look in."
Anyone else got any thoughts on the programme?
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Nothing says cycling like the inside of a 4x4...
(Or on the bonnet)
Former UCI and British Cycling president Brian Cookson had some strong words for cycling's governing body in the UK, saying he has "no confidence" in chair Frank Slevin and more "heads have to roll" following on from CEO Brain Facer's departure.
> British Cycling CEO Brian Facer leaves post with immediate effect
"The chair [Frank Slevin] needs to take some responsibility for this," Cookson told Cycling Weekly. "I have no confidence in him to continue, I think he should go. Now we have a structure imposed on us by UK Sport and the reality is we have a chairman who has effectively come from outside the sport, presumably appointed for his business expertise.
"The problem as I see it is that we're governed by people who don't really have a background in that sport, pastime, activity and I don't know what they're motivated by.
"Frank Slevin is almost invisible from what I can see. I think he needs to take some responsibility for some of these unfortunate controversies that have happened during his tenure. I do think that it seems inexplicable to me that the chairman and the board were unaware of the implications of the things that have happened and that have been so controversial.
"I think that some heads have to roll."
Facer's departure by "mutual agreement" came just weeks after British Cycling announced a toxically controversial eight-year partnership with petrochemicals giant Shell.
What a hero Illi Gardner is. Three days after winning the women's event at the National Hill Climb Championships, the climbing phenom has gone and smashed the QOM up one of the most hotly contested Strava segments in the world — Sa Calobra.
> Most competitive Strava segment in the world? Ed Laverack smashes Sa Calobra KOM
Clocking 29:09 up the iconic Mallorcan climb, Gardner beat previous QOM holder, Swedish pro triathlete Sara Svensk's time by 50 seconds and went almost two minutes faster than Emma Pooley's best.
> Weird and wonderful bikes from the National Hill Climb Championships
Covering the 9.44km, which averages seven per cent, at an average speed of 19.4km/h (12mph), Gardner's power data shows she held 264w, 5.4w/kg based on her Strava weight...
Super great dad. 😂 pic.twitter.com/nqa9ViuJDz
— Figen (@TheFigen_) November 1, 2022
Right, we'll round up some of your reaction later on, but for now we'll move onto some other things happening in the cycling world today...
That is after we've shared road.cc Simon's review of the episode...
As promised here's our chat with Panorama reporter Richard Bilton about the episode...
If you've been listening to BBC radio this morning you might have noticed the Panorama episode's statistics, questioned by Peter Walker in an earlier live blog post, being read out during news bulletins...
What the f**k was that @BBC6Music? A news story about people deliberately riding too close to cyclists and your soundbite was somebody heaping all of the blame on the cyclists? Does licensing stop car drivers from speeding or jumping red lights?
— Simon P. (@thepuncheur) November 2, 2022
Said 'soundbite' of choice? Yep... it's Rod Liddle's input to the episode...
Others have reported hearing the clip on Radio 2 and 4, we heard it during Lauren Laverne's Radio 6 Music show when a newsreader said:
A survey of motorists suggests there is widespread dislike of cyclists. More than 12,000 drivers were questioned and one-in-three told the BBC's Panorama that cyclists shouldn't be on the road. A quarter admitted deliberately driving too close to them. The government is spending billions of pounds encouraging more people to get on their bikes, the columnist Rod Liddle thinks more regulation of cyclists is needed...
Right... cue the soundbite from the episode (you'll have to read it, which might be a plus if you don't wish to hear this particular voice)...
Liddle: "Possibly some form of registration or indeed make it the law to use cycle lanes where they have been provided, I think that is one of the things that really gets up the nose of people. And I would enforce speed limits and pick them up for running red lights"...
Panorama's 'polling' has been criticised this morning... check out the earlier blog post for more from the Guardian's Peter Walker on the matter...
Finally (I promise): this is the official answer on what the "polling" comprises. Yup, it's an online, open survey. So not representative or scientific at all. The press release does call it a "survey", but it has no credibility at all. pic.twitter.com/3Rak8NJw2q
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) November 2, 2022
So in conclusion, based on these BBC news bulletins... the problem is a quarter of motorists admit deliberately driving too close to cyclists... so let's get Rod Liddle on to tell everyone the people being driven too close to should be registered for the privilege...
Yep, that's this Rod Liddle...
So, it's finally here... BBC's Panorama episode titled 'Road Rage: Cars v Bikes' has dropped on iPlayer ahead of its broadcast on BBC One at 8pm tonight and you might even recognise some of the video clips from a certain Near Miss of the Day series...
We spoke to the episode's producer, as well as reporter Richard Bilton, to contribute, which is why there are more than a few clips from this website included. Clearly, there are aspects we would rather weren't part of the episode... Rod Liddle's section springs to mind, while the title 'Road Rage: Cars v Bikes' has also landed some criticism.
We'll have a full road.cc piece analysing the episode, as well as a podcast episode with Bilton coming later today. Of course, we'll also keep you updated with all the reaction here on the live blog...
"Good in parts"
The Guardian's Peter Walker suggested the investigation is "good in parts" — Bilton talks to Cycling UK, the London Cycling Campaign and "very effectively shows how commonly dangerous driving affects you when cycling"... BUT raised concerns about the stats used, notably a third of drivers thinking cyclists shouldn't be on the road (figures already reported with clicky headlines by the Daily Mail and Cycling Weekly)... AND questioned the title..."There's this weird compulsion to make everything about cycling into a battle. As others have said, it's less a battle than a massacre."
So unless I'm told otherwise, it seems Panorama felt the need to bulk out the show with some fairly hair-raising and divisive non-statistics based on.... an open-ended online poll supposedly giving the views of "motorists". Really? That's pretty weak stuff.
— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) November 2, 2022
Keep your eyes peeled for our podcast episode with Richard Bilton which goes live later today...
Watching that Panorama Show. Overall I think it's fairly good in showing the dangers and highlighting how awful it is for people cycling.
The presenter is very good. Shame they have to have a shock journalist implying that cyclists need to be 'poked'https://t.co/9siBtbHzs5
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— Adam Bronkhorst (@AdamBronkhorst) November 2, 2022
Road safety campaigner Adam Bronkhorst agrees it is "fairly good" just with a couple of disappointing moments...
Very nice to see some familiar faces for cycling being interviewed & being voices of reason
Duncan Dollimore for @WeAreCyclingUK@Subversivite for @London_Cycling& @MikeyCycling
Overall the program is pretty good & doesn't play on the usual 'confrontation'& 'tribalism'
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— Adam Bronkhorst (@AdamBronkhorst) November 2, 2022
🚩 it’s a red flag pic.twitter.com/V0BSFx8RxG
— Mamnick™ (@Mamnick) November 2, 2022
It's that time of year... Halloween's passed (if that even counts as a notable calendar date) and one of my now-muted group chats has this week begun debating the best Christmas songs... they did festive movie rankings in October!!! Hopefully the World Cup will bring them back to more comfortable discussion...
Anyway, more importantly for us two-wheeled travellers, there has been a warning the Christmas period could bring an extra danger to cyclists using the roads... nope, not darker evenings, drivers taking a chance after the Christmas party, or even icy conditions... nope, today's warning is to look out for runaway oversized baubles... no, really...
WATCH OUT FOR THE BAUBLES
pic.twitter.com/e7cwIZEwNW— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) November 1, 2022